Apple can sometimes make small changes that have unexpected consequences.
Take Partition Schemes, for example.
This is the kind of thing most Mac users never think about. You buy a drive, plug it in, drive comes up, things work.
Done.
What you probably don't know is that most drives came partitioned and formatted for Windows, even when the drive is listed as "Mac Compatible", typically using Master Boot Record as the partition scheme and FAT32 as the format.
Before OSX 10.4.6 or so, this wasn't a big deal, at least for SuperDuper! Since FAT32 isn't appropriate for storing Mac files with full fidelity (and has various other issues, like file size limits, etc), we would instruct the user to erase the drive, using HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) as the format. Disk Utility wouldn't allow HFS+ volumes to be hosted on Master Boot Record partitioned drives, and so the user would need to select the drive, rather than the volume, and erase that way. No big deal.
Then, the Intel Macs came out, and with them, 10.4.6.
To help with something-or-other (probably to allow HFS+ and FAT32 volumes to be hosted on the same drive in separate partitions for Boot Camp users), Apple decided to change Disk Utility so that it allows HFS+ volumes to be hosted on Master Boot Record partitioned disks. Which I'm sure didn't seem like a big deal: in fact, it's quite convenient, and had probably been requested as a feature over the years.
All that's great, except for one thing: Macs don't support starting up from Master Boot Record volumes.
This is clearly not a big deal for most users. But, for SuperDuper! users (and, I'm sure, for those who use similar applications) it's been a big problem: drives that look like they should act as startup volumes won't, and the reason is really obscure.
Suddenly, users who used to use Disk Utility to erase a drive now have to head to the Partition tab (which doesn't even appear if you select the volume instead of the hosting drive), click Options, understand the 3 partition types, and partition their drive appropriately.
So, this one small change -- allow HFS+ volumes on Master Boot Record partitioned drives -- ends up having a pretty big impact on users with external drives. This is mostly due to its implementation (and lack of documentation).
Worse, users aren't steered to the right choice by Disk Utility. In fact, the default is to do the absolutely wrong thing for most: retain a Windows partition scheme.
This probably hasn't had much of an impact on Apple's support, but it's sure hurt here!
26 Mar 2007 at 06:46 pm | #
Dave,
Would you please expand just a little on this?
Specifically, exactly what steps should we take to format a new FAT32 drive so it can be a boot drive after SuperDuper! has made a clone of a system drive on it?
p.s. I take it the Taiko has been on either dry dog food or fresh meat? Wishing him the best.
Jeff
26 Mar 2007 at 09:23 pm | #
First things first: Taiko’s on dry food, and is just fine. Thanks!
As far as the drive goes, you want check its partition format. If you’ve got an Intel Mac, the partition scheme (which you can find on the lower right side of Disk Utility when the drive is selected) should be “GUID”. On a Power PC Mac, it should be “Apple Partition Map”.
If it’s “Master Boot Record”, you need to switch to the partition tab, click Options, choose the proper partition type, and repartition.
Does that help?
26 Mar 2007 at 11:48 pm | #
Thanks. I thought it would be helpful if that information was in the comment since GUID was never mentioned.
Glad to hear Taiko is safe and well - he sure has grown some....
27 Mar 2007 at 07:24 am | #
Yeah: 80lbs of rather excitable boy. He’s a good little guy who spends way too much time on his hind legs…
27 Mar 2007 at 12:34 pm | #
On my Power PC, the partition schemes are “Apple Martition Map”, just as you said. But the volumes have a format of “Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
Does the volume format make any difference?
27 Mar 2007 at 12:53 pm | #
That’s exactly what you want, Joe: you’re all set.
05 Apr 2007 at 07:46 pm | #
New to Mac’s and have tried your program Superduper. Please clarify ... My Intel iMac indicates that the LaCie external drive is partitioned “Apple Partition Map” and the format is Mac OS Extended (journaled). The full backup that SD created boots fine. Should I repartition the external drive and use GUID? The internal HD is a GUID partition map.
05 Apr 2007 at 07:56 pm | #
No, you don’t have to. Intel Macs can use APM volumes to start up from (though the internal drive should always be GUID). GUID is just “preferred”.
05 Apr 2007 at 10:55 pm | #
I’m confused! If I buy an Intel-based Mac and I use SuperDuper! to backup to an external or even an internal drive, it won’t work. Even though all the drives I use are Mac OS extended, I cannot get SuperDuper to restore a backup?
Sorry to be so dense but this really confuses me as SD is the only backup system I use or trust. I dumped Retrospect a while ago.
06 Apr 2007 at 06:48 am | #
Is that a question, DaMoose, or a statement? I can’t tell, but SD! certainly can restore a backup on Intel Macs.